Poll on thoughts about the insider rewards.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TheGurgeMan, Jul 11, 2017.

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Do you prefer the new rewards, old rewards, or would like a rework alltogether?

  1. New

  2. Old

  3. Rework

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  1. TheGurgeMan

    TheGurgeMan Well-Known Member

    I am just curious to see what people think about the new rewards system now that it has been out for a few months. Im curious to see if people like the new rewards over the old rewards that focused more on forum activity rather than running a game.

    Just curious.
     
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  2. Fisz

    Fisz Active Member

    I like the new reward system much. Old was quite good too, but now you have more rewards to choice :)
     
  3. Predator5

    Predator5 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but the rewards are minimal.
    The value of the rewards is literally around 40 times smaller. You could have gotten like 250$ worth of stuff, now you can get like a 10$ discount.

    I have feeling that we have been ripped off, as these rewards were taken from us. I have nothing against adding new ones, but removing older ones that people have beeing working for were just taken away from them.

    We could have gotten a Deathadder, a Kraken and a couple of other discounts, now with the same level of activity you get like a 10$ discount.

    A Lancehead TE costs like 104000 zSilver, and from all my current Insider rewards I got like 5000 zSilver, so like 20 times less. Not counting that I could have gotten a Kraken as well.

    So putting numbers into perspective, now my rewards are 40 times less valuable.

    Nice.

    If there wasn't paid to play I couldn't really get anything.

    The 5000 zSilver I got from Insider for being active a year and a half, helping the community, defending Razer and all other stuff, is rewarded as much as playing a game for a week.
    What were you thinking Razer?
     
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  4. ARMOR_152

    ARMOR_152 Active Member

    The whole zVault is really cool but ya, there's very little incentive to be active on Insider. There does overall seems to less spam though, so that's good. It makes it very clear when there are over 500,000 Insider accounts but there's only ~200 people that are on here. The amount of posts on the Fast and Furious Blade Stealth giveaway was just ridiculous, but even with all those new people the forums aren't any more active now. But still, something is better than nothing and Razer is doing good with maintaining a small community. The old rewards were great while they lasted, hopefully they'll eventually improve the new ones more.
     
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  5. Hucast

    Hucast Active Member

    The way you explained it in that other thread, I voted for the old way.
     
  6. Jenjar

    Jenjar Active Member

    I liked the rewards of the old system much more, But i am very glad that the new system got rid of most of the spammers on this forum, There still are a few of them around but not near as many as there where during the time the old rewards system was in place. I also think that Razer should not advertise those insider giveaways such as the 500,000 Insider members blade giveaway as much on social media, Since it does bring many new people to the forums and i would say less then 1/4th of them stay active on here.
    I think the new System could use a rework though, With some more different ZSilver rewards since after a while, You get close to everything unlocked, And there's no refreshes or new stuff being added too often like the old system.
     
  7. j.i

    j.i Well-Known Member

    @Predator5 I basically feel the same, the new reward system is just like every point based system that is used in most modern shops, nothing special at all and the rewards are very hard to get

    for example I hardly play any games that are listed in pay to play, I just don't have the time
    so in order for me to get anything from my insider activities it would take years, and although my post count is pretty high it only got me around 4k silver....

    that's one reason why I haven't ordered anything from the razerstore since the new system got implemented, and I probably won't in the near future
    prices on amazon are lower and without any special gifts there is no reason to buy from razer directly

    However since razer put much effort in making and promoting the system I doubt that we will ever see the old system or something like a non point based system ever again, it is also way cheaper, giving away free krakens probably got just too expensive


    edit:
    I actually made a thread some time ago, asking why it would take me ~ 30 years of being active on insider to get a 100k reward but it got deleted for "non constructivness"
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2017
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  8. Predator5

    Predator5 Well-Known Member

    Why do Razer officials keep ignoring this topic?
    I feel like we were cheated on.
     
  9. j.i

    j.i Well-Known Member

    probably because they couldn't change anything, the main benfit from the new system is that it is way cheaper
    and they are probably not in a position to decide how much razer can spend on free stuff
     
  10. Hucast

    Hucast Active Member

    I guess we should be happy that razer even offers free stuff. I certainly don't see corsair or Logitech offering anything for free. At least not that I know of.
     
  11. Jenjar

    Jenjar Active Member

    Yeah that is a good point. In the end when you think about it, Even though some people feel like we are being cheated on, Razer still is giving us the chance to get free stuff or discounts on items for just posting and playing games, And the old system did most likely make Razer loose a fair bit of money. At least with the ZGold and ZSilver way of doing things they make some money back from people buying the ZGold.
    Even if they don't do anything with the Insider system to make it close to what it used to be, I hope they continue to add to the list of redeemable ZSilver items, And add some cheaper things you could redeem other then keyboards and stuff, Say the chroma keychain or some of the other merch products, other then the snapback.