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Razer Blade 2016 GTX 1060 Fan

Discussion in 'Systems' started by RazerGwynbleidd, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. BludshedX

    BludshedX New Member

    I've seen an interview with a guy that claims to be responsible for the BIOS settings for the when the fans kick in (with the main priority being to minimize the annoyance of having noticeable speed increments by having them turn on earlier and more gradually)... but having it constantly going is just as bad.

    With personal experimentation I know the CPU can safely (and I refuse to use my Blade any other way now!) be undervolted by 0.14-0.15 volts which interestingly enough reduces max load temp by over 10C (max temp sitting around 72-74C preventing the fans from spooling up one bit) with very minimal (if any) effect on performance (based on stress test benchmark scores) - Highly recommended mod and something which IMHO should be how it ships standard. Maybe there's something similar that can be done to reduce power draw and heat at idle and low intensity usage?

    When gaming it's understandable but having the fans constantly on even when simply web browsing is annoying as heck... and surely eating somewhat into the battery life! This would be almost the perfect laptop if it wasn't for this.

    Oh, then, personally, I just need a bios update that ups the screen size from 14" to 15" :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

    On a side note, kudos for the 2.0 bios with the coil whine fix.. worked a treat on my Skylake 1060 Blade!

    Eagerly awaiting the fan-fix update.
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  2. 9l_xcelr8

    9l_xcelr8 Active Member

    Does this thread also address the same issue with blade pro 2014? It runs on full speed even when idle or small tasks like web browsing and stuff. And over the time it has become way more noisy than it was in the first year. I have to clean the fans and oil the cpu one every few months or it starts making loud creaky noise as if the fan is obstructed.
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  3. No, just about 2016 14" as this is not a defect which develops over time but they have 'designed' the machine to behave that way from the beginning.
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  4. WaschBaer

    WaschBaer Active Member

    oiling the cpu sounds wrong to me lol .. you mean repaste ? or oil the fans lol
  5. 9l_xcelr8

    9l_xcelr8 Active Member

    i said oil the "cpu one", meaning oil the fan that cools the cpu, the left one. The right one gets active when i play games, stays pretty much silent otherwise.
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  6. WaschBaer

    WaschBaer Active Member

    my bad havent seen that lol :D
  7. 9l_xcelr8

    9l_xcelr8 Active Member

    actually hyper active left fan has been a problem with older blades and blade pros too. Mine had a hyperactive left fan since the beginning, it just started making creaking voice after about 1 year of use.
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  8. Hope the fix comes soon...
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  9. Need Blade in malaysia!
  10. WaschBaer

    WaschBaer Active Member

    wrong thread dude
  11. Well I hate to be that guy and

    all but on the 2017 model... fans are still annoying as hell.

    I purchased a 2017 Blade after returning my Late 2016 model due to the fan annoyance.

    Even while on "Auto" or "low" every once in awhile the fans will spike on and off. It looks like there isn't any fan curve between 0-40% for some odd reason. It looks like the fans kick on around 55-66 degrees or ~40% CPU usage.

    This was even the case when undervolting it by -120.

    It seems to be the fans have 3 modes outside of the settings.

    Off - under 55 degrees or so
    On - starting at 40%
    Turbo jet engine - gaming

    I'm sitting here at work while 3 tabs are open in Chrome and its: off-off-off-ON!-off-off-off-ON! No rouge background processes or anything.
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  12. vistar

    vistar Active Member

    I am not sure what is better.....to have a constant annoying humming....or to have a silent machine...then annoying humming...then silence...then humming again...Bummer, no hope then.
    Well, I still wish I had the Kabylake though, because at least it is silent when on idle or in low intensity use.
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2017
  13. Having no fans under 55 degrees and then stepping insounds reasonable and is what the Aero 14 is doing(*). I can keep it to under 55°C with limiting the speed to 50% (which is more than enough for office use). Most of the time the CPU is at 0.8 to 1GHz anyway... and 1.4GHz is fast enough that you won't notice anything lagging unless doing some compilation or real resource intense applications.

    Viperguy, can you try that? Just set the maximum processor state to 50% in the power manager for the active energy plan.

    (*) although the Aero does gently start spinning, not at 40%
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  14. Sure thing, I ran XTU's stress test (5min) on 50% capped CPU power (on battery) and no fans came on. Hit a max temp of 54 degrees which leads me to believe the fan curve responds to both package temp and cpu usage.

    A good result for sure but kind of a bummer that we'd have to limit things to 50% to make them tolerable.

    I have also tried:

    60% - max core frequency at 1.69GHz and no fans (5 min test), max temp 54 degrees
    70% - no dice, fans on after 1 min
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  15. Just to say, no need to say support to move their ass for a fix, they don't even answer back.

    Support is a robot, there's no real people behind. If so, they are all zombie, no brain.

    I'm done fighting for nothing. Should contact some magazine or site to expend this ...
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  16. vistar

    vistar Active Member

    Their support team is probably swamped with all the RMA´s and returns of the Kabylake version among other systems, and thus could care less about the fan profile on the skylake, which they don´t even consider it as a problem because it was designed and shipped like this.
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2017
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  17. vistar

    vistar Active Member

    I am coming to grips with the fact that I might have to live with the annoying constant humming...until my next planned upgrade, which will probably be only when Nvidia releases the next generation, and I seriously doubt it will be a razer again. If I upgrade before then, most likely it will because I didn´t come to grips with the fans constantly on...:frown_:.
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  18. Same for me .. I wait years to get the blade in EU, and I am now very disappointed.
    Never more Razer.

    I'll do the best hardware fan fix I can in a few weeks when I get time to. No need wait a fix anymore, there won't be.
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  19. vistar

    vistar Active Member

    I am bummed that I sold my other notebook prematurely to buy the RB....and now I think I might just buy a XPS13 or something for work and use the RB for entertainment...but I really think I shouldn´t need two machines and one should suffice for work and entertainment, especially investing 2k. The more I am aware of the fan noise, the more it bothers me and I can´t concentrate when working....hehe... I blame this threat because when I got the RB last year I didn´t even notice the fans that much, then I starting reading this thread and then all of sudden it started bugging me more and more.:eek_:
  20. WaschBaer

    WaschBaer Active Member

    it was not designed to have a fan stuck on full speed ... it was not designed to have a ec fix fuckin up the whole fan curves .. thats not a design choice .. that was a bad mistake they made with the ec 4.0 fix mine startet freaking out after that fix .. and many others too