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what everyone wants in the next razer blade 2018 or late 2017

Discussion in 'Systems' started by killer_9779, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    Yes, I know, but there must be improvment for gaming in some way, so Intel can advertise it; though I don't think that it will be a big difference anyway - Moore's law stopped working several years ago.

    Firstly, I don't think that Razer will go with slower card, they may go with 1070 Max-Q, like MSI did with GS63VR.
     
  2. Danzle1991

    Danzle1991 New Member

    My guess would be plain clockspeed. Would be something if we get the same performance we currently have from a 7700HQ with a TDP of 35W instead of 45W tho.

    A 1070MQ would be dope for sure, but i don't think it will go well with the current cooling system. If they upgrade that with a bigger finstack and bit larger fans, might work if they decide to go with the lowest (80W) setting for the MQ.

    For me a 1060MQ just sounds a bit more "safe" to implement without tossing to much in to a heatsink redesign.
     
  3. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    Intel can just apply more attention to setting voltages on their processors. It would decrease power consumption => heat dramatically.

    As far as I can understand, 1070MQ=1060, 1080MQ=1070, because companies like MSI implement one step more powerful GPUs without any changes in cooling system.
     
  4. Kurosujitsu

    Kurosujitsu New Member

    - not an HDT heatsink please
    - add an exhaust fan on side not on hinge this make the hot air not come out, like RB 17 R2 exhaust model
    - most important : the Quality Control of razer blade it self
    - mosfet, well... please dont make it baked by the heat (put in another place please?)
    - screen flickering fix it..!!
    - less bezel maybe
    - look nvidia using max-Q are you use it?
    - gap on your heat sink.. fix it (important)
    - lower price? (maybe)
    - don't make the blade is a trash because the quality
     
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  5. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    I have tried all 14 model except early 2016 and FHD 2015, and never had such experience, I think it's driver related issues.
    It could possibly happen but just for adding please not add more weight, like on stealth. Just reduce the form factor like Apple did to reduce overall weight. I saw on gamescom new 13,3 stealth it's nice well made but a bit heavy for the size.
    I think max-Q engineers learned something or made a reference from Blade architecture to insert powerful GPU in such thin cassis, because before max q release Blade laptops were the leading thin cassis gaming laptops, so I think Razer should learn it back and put something better that max Q architecture in upcoming Blade.
    A lot of people are hoping it but unfortunately it seems won't be like that, like Apple they put huge efforts in R&D to make a decent machine which keeps the price in the premium line. I have zero issues with the Blades that i bought and I think i get the performance and quality that i paid for it.
     
  6. Kurosujitsu

    Kurosujitsu New Member

    but how about the MOSFET's or vBios chip, i have ask someone and they said it still under the heat sink on 2017 ver.. i hope razer fix it on the next product
     
  7. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    I don't know exactly about MOSFET and vBios Chip placements, it's their job to engineers its place on Blade motherboard with keeping the system durability. Before Kabylake 2017 14 i had 2015 14 quite long sold it in mint mint condition after almost everyday gaming usage and the buyer till now hasn't reported me any issues. Under "normal" use i think it's no problem but maybe it would be better if they redesign it to make an improvement to the whole systems durability.
     
  8. Danzle1991

    Danzle1991 New Member

    It is their job, sadly they don't seem to care to much about durability and engineering. As much as I respect them for this tiny little powerhouse, I as an enthusiast of pc hardware myself cannot ignore all the revelations made trough the laptop community regarding issues in placement and design of components.

    If they take care of that, the blade will be very high up in my wishlist.
     
  9. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    As I said above I had no hardware issues, overheating etc from razer edge until now Blade 2017 and i just ordered yesterday Blade stealth because i am satisfied with their systems. I'm not engineer, just a costumer. From my experience owning their systems, only a thing that important to note, don't push or tweak the Blades hardware since it's a laptop not a desktop and I think you'll enjoy using it. Of course if they put better engineering I'll be also happy;)
     
  10. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    I think that he's talking about PWM-flickering, which he read about in a review of the Blade... You can't really see it, so you haven't experienced it ;)
    P.S. same here for me :)

    And please, do NOT ask Razer to lower prices for this laptop - for lower prices you need to do something in order to make the system cost less, and it will cause problems... Plus they won't do it anyway)
     
  11. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    I see
    They don't lower the prices often, instead they give a bunch gifts like gears, pheriperals and games or software which is not bad. But now they offer also 5% systems Sale (gamescom sale) in razer store, and here (Germany) from resellers who helps them promoting in gamescom you get 10%system Sale if you buy from them (like newegg? In us).
     
  12. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    Yes, the idea is good, though I can't get them because I'm not in the USA ;(
    P.S. is it okay for Blade to produce some coil whine noise while on charge?
     
  13. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    It depends how bad it is. Because its fresh rate is only 60hz, playing the games by keeping the FPS not way over 60fps through vsync or FPS limiter maybe will help reduce coil whine.
     
  14. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    The point is, that it produces coil whine noise when charging even when it's turned off!
     
  15. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    That's really not normal, I thought on gaming. Coil whine comes from GPU when it works really hard maybe push the hardware limit like playing games over the limited freshrate. Does it mean your Blade is still working when it's turned off?
     
  16. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    No, I can even fully shut down my Blade, but when charging it will produce this coil whine-like noise. I even tried to record a video to tell you about it, but my smartphone's microphone can not record this sound, for some reason....
    I've even not played games on my Blade, because I want it to run without pressure for the first week.
     
  17. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    It's not normal, where are those sound coming from btw? You have to run stressing test in first weeks to know the machines limits, if it couldn't hold on first week you could return it, that what i always do. I think other people also do same thing. It's built for gaming that's the point poeple buy it. Of course overclocking or pushing hardware over its limit like playing games on all max setting that push GPU and CPU near 100 Celsius wouldn't be recommended, because it's not a desktop that you can easily change parts by parts.
     
  18. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    Somewhere from F10 key. Can't properly locate the sound.
    The point is that I'm not in America and I can not buy Blade officialy in my country (Russia).
    I bought it 3 days ago while being in Latvia, via Amazon. For their sake, they did me a refund (210$), but they could not help anyway - they can only send a new one instead of not-working-properly one and I don't have so much time.
    If I push the system hard just from the start (benchmarks) and it will break, I will get nothing.
    So I just have to believe ;)
     
  19. Danzle1991

    Danzle1991 New Member

    He says it's around the F10 key which aligns with the GPU, it's vram or possibly the fan. I'd suggest going in to the windows powerplan and use performance mode, reboot, use powersaver mode and reboot. Repeating that 2-3 times might help it, helped with my Clevo P370EM at least after having a whine.


    If you tweak you're hardware you get: Less heat, less fan noise, less powerconsumtion and all those factors combined, higher boost clocks.

    If you buy a powerfull laptop and don't push it, why buy it in the first place? You could have bought something with weaker hardware then, if you don't want to use it to it's full extend anyway.
     
  20. Chorger

    Chorger New Member

    Huh, I've just said, that it produces this noise even when fully shut down!
    I said: "I don't want to push it for the first week at least." I draw a parallel to cars - they need some time to break in.